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Hello,

I can't get to start using TChart3d component (Teemaker group). I understand that this is the one to use to get better visual results (I have experience with regular TChart).
As soon as I'm dropping one of those components to a new VCL app, and try to add a series I'm getting a "Stack Overflow" exception and have to close Delphi.

I'm using Delphi XE2 Update 4 with hotfix, on a Win7 professional/ 32 bits Spanish. Teechart is last 2012 version available for VCL.

Also I tried to use TeeMaker demo, but after compiling it, when running is not showing anything in "maker 1 tab" and is hanging if I'm adding a cone, for instance. If I am first doing "new" page, some scene appears and I'm able to add a cone, but adding a chart, for instance, is hanging again the app.
By the way, the teemaker example has reference to many files that don't exist (in the directory).
Even though if you are careful you can play a bit, is rather unstable in my opinion.

Could you help me?
Regards,
Gonzalo

Hi Gonzalo,

Which videocard do you have in your PC?

Bert

Hello,
I have a NVidia Geforce 320M, with driver version 285.62.

Regards,
Gonzalo

Hi,

I was hoping for a different video card.

You aren't the first one having the problem you described. More information can be found in the following topic:
http://www.teechart.net/support/viewtop ... =3&t=11920

In this topic you can read that I created a small test application that doesn't run on my development machine which has Intel graphics, and some other PC's with older hardware.
The test application runs fine on newer hardware, but according to the results from Google, your video card is pretty recent.

It is a good thing if Steema would put more effort in solving this problem. I was and still am willing to run debug versions on the PC's that I can lay my hands on.

Regards,
Bert

Hello,

Could you please try the example here? It also uses TChart3D but in a simpler project.

Hi,

I can compile the test application without problems, but it won't run on my machine. See the attachment.
The application fine on some other computers.

Regards,
Bert

Hi,

Bert B. wrote:I can compile the test application without problems, but it won't run on my machine. See the attachment.
The application fine on some other computers.

Wow

And you, Gonzalo (Tecsidel)? Just to check the theory of the old vs new video cards.

Hi both!

I can compile the app without problems, but when running I'm getting the Overflow exception.
I tried in a second computer with same results.
With a 3rd machine I got something similar to Bert, the frame of the app but nothing showing inside.

If you need my compiled exe to analyze what can be wrong, just ask...

Regards
Gonzalo

I tried with the new VCL version that was published today, but same results. Stack overflow.

I tried commenting out FastMM4, but no change.

In XP also not working.


I also tried in a Delphi XE on my computer (the same as the XE2) but also I'm getting the same stack overflow error (just dropped an teechart3d and added a bar series, and when closing the chart editor the overflow exception comes).
When trying to close Delphi, following stack trace is shown for an access violation:
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[5005C3A4]{rtl150.bpl } SysUtils.FreeAndNil (Line 19652, "SysUtils.pas" + 2) + $2
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[20A74CA4]{coreide150.bpl} DocModul.WalkDependencies (Line 1613, "DocModul.pas" + + $5
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[20841331]{coreide150.bpl} ProjectModule.TBaseProject.BeforeDestruction (Line 1027, "ProjectModule.pas" + 34) + $6
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Regards,
Gonzalo

Any new on this?

Hello Gonzalo,

Sorry for the delay. We are investigating your problem and try to answer asap.

Thanks,

Hi,

I'm not able to reproduce the error, but I see a similar (but not exactly equal) blank window when executing the project in a Win7 64bit machine and RAD XE2. Here it is what I see: And if I click on the "Edit 3D..." button, then everything looks correct.
Could you please give it a try?

Hi,

I have already posted my screen shot where I don't see the 'Edit 3D...' button.
Today I ran the application on another computer and noticed that it is using all CPU power of one core. That is also happening on my main development machine.
Can you create a test application with a lot of logging (using OuputDebugString for example)?

Regards,
Bert

Hello,

We've ran the PieDemo example in several machines and found it seems to behave differently in them, apparently doing the same.
- In some of them, we get this. In this case, if we move the focus to another application (before clicking the "Edit 3D..." button), then we get a completely unresponsive application, like here.
- In others, we get a StackOverflow if the mouse is over the chart when the form is trying to be shown. If the mouse is far from it, nothing is show (no form, no error) but we see the application executing in the Task Manager, and ending the execution without any intervention.

We are still investigating this.